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Re: German Translation

Post by hans » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:31 pm

Hmm yes then we have to edit all other translations. I think that's not worth it.
Ok then the tool would have the name of the operation. The user would understand that though.

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Re: German Translation

Post by hans » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:02 pm

In the dialog 'New thread mill' the parameter 'Thread depth' - is this the maximum depth that the mill is able to mill?
(This parameter is not described in the manual)


And something about thread milling I wondered.
Why is the thread diameter determined by the tool and not by the drawing hole size?
I think thread milling is comparable to pocket operation where pocket size is determined by the drawing. The thread mill is capable of milling different thread sizes, so if I want to do that I have to define multiple tools for the same tool...
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Re: German Translation

Post by hans » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:09 pm

Les Newell wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:07 pm
I can but the problem is that it would break all of the other translations. Is it possible for you to work around it?
Hmm but not really nice. if you add something or change the translations, please add that and let me know.

Edit: the same with 'drill'

In which context appears

'Cannot cut on the edge of a flange'

and

'Flange thickness' ?

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Re: German Translation

Post by Les Newell » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:19 pm

hans wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:02 pm
In the dialog 'New thread mill' the parameter 'Thread depth' - is this the maximum depth that the mill is able to mill?
It is the distance from the peak of the thread to the root of the thread. See https://slideplayer.com/slide/15209113/
Why is the thread diameter determined by the tool and not by the drawing hole size?
I think thread milling is comparable to pocket operation where pocket size is determined by the drawing. The thread mill is capable of milling different thread sizes, so if I want to do that I have to define multiple tools for the same tool...
The circle is the drill size. The outside diameter of the thread would be the hole size plus twice the thread depth.
The diameter in the tool definition is the diameter of the thread mill, not the diameter of the finished thread. This must be less than the drill size.
'Cannot cut on the edge of a flange'
This is used by the rotary plugin when cutting I beams. The flange of an I beam is the top or bottom.

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Re: German Translation

Post by hans » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:42 pm

Les Newell wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:19 pm
hans wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:02 pm
In the dialog 'New thread mill' the parameter 'Thread depth' - is this the maximum depth that the mill is able to mill?
It is the distance from the peak of the thread to the root of the thread. See https://slideplayer.com/slide/15209113/
Is this the value called 17/24H resp. 5/8H or H ?
Maybe you could add an image like for the other values.
Les Newell wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:19 pm
hans wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:02 pm
Why is the thread diameter determined by the tool and not by the drawing hole size?
I think thread milling is comparable to pocket operation where pocket size is determined by the drawing. The thread mill is capable of milling different thread sizes, so if I want to do that I have to define multiple tools for the same tool...
The circle is the drill size. The outside diameter of the thread would be the hole size plus twice the thread depth.
The diameter in the tool definition is the diameter of the thread mill, not the diameter of the finished thread. This must be less than the drill size.
That what I expected. But actually it looks like this (all the same operation):
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Les Newell wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:19 pm
This is used by the rotary plugin when cutting I beams. The flange of an I beam is the top or bottom.
With the "Rotary pipe cutting" plugin?

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Re: German Translation

Post by hans » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:45 pm

Can you say weather this single 'an' appears on another positions in your code, or can I make the translation suitable only for this?
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Re: German Translation

Post by Les Newell » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:38 pm

hans wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:42 pm
Is this the value called 17/24H resp. 5/8H or H ?
it's 17/24H or 5/8H depending on the thread type.
Maybe you could add an image like for the other values.
Yes. I need to add that image.
That what I expected. But actually it looks like this (all the same operation):
Sorry, my mistake. It's a while since I last looked at threading.
With the "Rotary pipe cutting" plugin?
Yes.
Can you say weather this single 'at' appears on another positions in your code, or can I make the translation suitable only for this?
It only appears in the move operation. The way it builds up the position string is a bit ugly but I can't think of a better way.

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Re: German Translation

Post by hans » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:47 pm

Les Newell wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:38 pm
That what I expected. But actually it looks like this (all the same operation):
Sorry, my mistake. It's a while since I last looked at threading.
So another tool definition is needed for another thread size with the same tool?
Les Newell wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:38 pm
Can you say weather this single 'at' appears on another positions in your code, or can I make the translation suitable only for this?
It only appears in the move operation. The way it builds up the position string is a bit ugly but I can't think of a better way.
Its ok so...

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Re: German Translation

Post by hans » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:37 pm

After spending a final day on the translation I can proudly present you the german translation 2.0. I reviewed all fields so the big number of spelling errors is away now :-). With the fields I have knowledge of where they belong to I tried to to the best fitted translation.
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Re: German Translation

Post by hans » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:42 pm

While reviewing I came across this field:

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What is this about? It looks like a nice feature that I don't know...

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Re: German Translation

Post by Les Newell » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:02 pm

hans wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:47 pm
So another tool definition is needed for another thread size with the same tool?
You define the thread size in the threading operation, not the tool.
What is this about? It looks like a nice feature that I don't know...
I'm not sure where your translation got those from. They were part of a feature I was developing a long while back but they are no longer used.
The Mach3 plugin does this automatically. I am working on a way to add functionality similar to the Mach3 plugin for LinuxCNC, EdingCNC etc but it's a fairly low priority at the moment.
After spending a final day on the translation I can proudly present you the german translation 2.0
Thank you. Did you make many changes to de.po?

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Re: German Translation

Post by hans » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:44 pm

Les Newell wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:02 pm
You define the thread size in the threading operation, not the tool.
Ah yes I missed that, Thanks.
Les Newell wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:02 pm
What is this about? It looks like a nice feature that I don't know...
I'm not sure where your translation got those from. They were part of a feature I was developing a long while back but they are no longer used.
The Mach3 plugin does this automatically. I am working on a way to add functionality similar to the Mach3 plugin for LinuxCNC, EdingCNC etc but it's a fairly low priority at the moment.
Me neither. The question is where you got the german translation from where my translation is based on ;-)
Les Newell wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:02 pm
After spending a final day on the translation I can proudly present you the german translation 2.0
Thank you. Did you make many changes to de.po?
Only a few to de.po. But maybe there are diff tools for po files...

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Re: German Translation

Post by hans » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:42 pm

Some more optimization...
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Re: German Translation

Post by Les Newell » Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:15 pm

Thanks.

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